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"The Relay" Online Newsletter
February 2024 Issue

This is the monthly online newsletter for the car club council. All car hobbyist events are listed on this site under "Calendar." Just click on the link above to view the list of car shows and other activities.

President's Message

A group of brave car hobbyists survived another Polar Bear Run in January. The high temp that day was 31 degrees and yes it was cold. It wasn't the record - another Polar Bear Run years ago had a high of only 25. We visited the home/fire museum of Tom Herman (Old Dominion Historical Fire Society) and then we journeyed over to the shop of Zac Love (Love's Kustoms). Next participants could take a look at the Rodney Watts collection of rusty old cars and trucks (Watts Auto Service). Finally lunch was at the restaurant of choice or as suggested the The Fishin Pig - rated the best restaurant in Farmville. Although cold it was a great run that also included a stop at Chula Junction Flea Market. Next year we'll do it again and perhaps due to global warming/climate change the temp might be a bit warmer.

I have a lot of info in this newsletter about the General Assembly session and the bills that are auto-related. Despite having a one seat majority in both houses the Democrats have made sure they have the majority on all committees. Bills first go to a subcommittee or committee where they either make it out or die. Fixing the majority in the committees has insured that the democrats pass the bills they want and kill the bills they don't want. The GA was a lot better years ago before all this partisanship. It looks like the governor will have to use a lot of pens to veto a lot of bills.

There are a lot of bills in the GA on speed cameras and I have a couple of articles below on them. During holiday weekends the State Police report the number of traffic tickets they hand out. If you do the math you will find that on holiday weekends like Memorial Day and Labor Day the State Police average over 100 tickets PER HOUR EACH HOUR. That is a lot of $$$. Apparently several members of the GA (there are 6 speed camera bills) found out that Maryland made a ton of money on speed cameras. While a police officer has to take several minutes to stop a speeding car, check the registration and insurance, issue a ticket - speed cameras could issue several tickets in that same amount of time and thus make lots more money. They are trying to make this about safety by putting the cameras near road construction and schools but it is about the money.

And now from the land of fruits and nuts comes a California bill to put speed governors in cars and light trucks beginning in 2027 to restrict vehicles from going 10 over the speed limit. This has gotten a lot of press including on TV. I'm willing to bet it will never happen. There is just too much money to be made on speeding tickets (During the 2022 four-day Operation C.A.R.E initiative for the July 4 holiday, Virginia troopers arrested 69 drivers for operating under the influence of alcohol or drugs, and cited 4,262 speeders and 1,585 reckless drivers. Troopers issued 429 citations to individuals for failing to buckle up, and another 131 citations for children not being properly secured in a vehicle. Virginia troopers also cited 165 drivers for being in violation of Virginia's year-old "hands free" law.) Yeah, those in power want that ticket money.

It's February and the seasonal cruise-ins are getting posted. Be sure to send in your event early - the calendar gets a lot of hits. In fact this website got over 9 million hits during the past year.

~ Fred

Next Meeting

The next meeting will be Monday, April 22nd at 6:30 PM at a location that will be in the April newsletter.

The Classic Cruisers Car Club of Yorktown Raises $33,000 For Charity


Thank You for your support in listing and promoting The Classic Cruisers Car Club of Yorktown 27 Saturday Night Cruise-ins, 4 Car Shows and related events in the Car Club Council of Central Virginia Events listing in 2023.

In summary our club and club members were responsible for raising almost $33,000 for our community.

We look forward to your continued support and for a productive and safe 2024.
Al Crane
Classic Cruisers Car Club
Community Relations Co-Chair

Happy Valentine's Day from the council

Car Hobbyist News

National Report

Once again it is not looking good for those EV sales. The feds and many state governments are pushing them. Since we have California rules at the start of this year dealers can only sell 2024 vehicles that meet California pollution standards. In 2026 dealers must sell 35% EVs with a ban on sales of gas/diesel cars and light trucks coming in 2035. We're not going to meet any of those goals.

After seeing GM's third-quarter earning the president of GM has decided to cut by on targets to build 100,000 EVs in the second half of 2023 and another 400,000 by the first six months of 2024. Apparently sales aren't what they had hoped they would be. Same over at Ford as the electric F-150 plant is going from two shifts to one and moving over 1000 workers to a plant that builds gas vehicles. Buick is losing about 1000 dealerships because they do not want to sell EVs. Cadillac is going to lose about 150 out of their 880 dealers because they too don't wish to sell EVs or make the investments needed to service and sell EVs. Tesla stock has dropped after the company reduced prices in Europe and China. Tesla is working on a lower priced EV. Hertz has decided to sell off 20,000 Teslas and replace them with gas vehicles. Tesla vehicles proved to be expensive to repair and maintain. After Tesla dropped prices the value of the Hertz Tesla fleet tanked - Hertz sells a lot of used rentals and the company was surprised by how low you have to go to move them.

In 2021 the Biden administration got Congress to set aside $7.5 billion to build thousands of chargers for EVs across the nation. Two years later not a single charger has been installed. Due to all the federal red tape less than half the states have even applied for the charger money. And out of the $7.5 billion only $2 billion has been authorized. Yet the Biden administration still has a target of 50% EV sales by 2030 - they'll miss that one.

Final note on EVs - the Texas Public Policy Foundation conducted a study that took into consideration EV subsidies and credits to find the actual cost of operating an EV. They discovered that using an EV is equivalent to running a gas car with gasoline costing $17.33 a gallon. The more people learn about EVs that less they want them. There are a lot of people who would like to have a hybrid but federal and many state governments are pushing EVs.

The World Economic Forum met recently in Davos, Switzerland. All those private jets spew carbon dioxide during that week — equal to the output of 350,000 cars during the same period. But these are important people that need to address climate change and get you behind the wheel of an EV that you don't want.

State Report

The democrats wasted no time killing the repeal of the California rules in a Senate committee by an 8 to 6 party line voted. The house bills to kill the rules put in place in 2021 are currently in committee. You can check the status of all auto-related legislation at http://vaacc.org/legis1.html. Below are updates on some of the more important bills. Please note this information is current as of the end of January. Click the vaacc.org link above to get the latest on each bill.

First up is the Collector Car bill: Creates license plates for collector motor vehicles, defined in the bill, which the Commissioner of the Department of Motor Vehicles shall issue to any applicant who owns or has regular use of another passenger car, autocycle, or motorcycle and who owns at least a total of three collector motor vehicles. The bill designates the fee for such plates and registration as $50, specifies that the collector motor vehicles shall not be used for general transportation purposes and may only be used (i) for participation in shows, parades, charitable functions, and historical exhibitions for display, maintenance, and preservation; (ii) on the highways of the Commonwealth for the purpose of testing their operation or selling the vehicle, obtaining repairs or maintenance, transportation to and from events, and for occasional pleasure driving not exceeding 250 miles from the residence of the owner; and (iii) to carry or transport passengers and personal effects. The bill also prohibits such vehicles from being registered as antique vehicles or military surplus motor vehicles. Finally, the bill makes it a Class 4 misdemeanor to violate any provision relating to the registration of collector motor vehicles.

This bill has been amended to change the fee from $50 to $200 and the number of vehicles from 3 to 6. The bill allows vehicles that are less than 25 years old to be treated similar to antiques. The bill has passed the Transportation Committee but money is involved here so the bill has been sent to the Finance and Appropriations Committee.

Next are 3 exhaust bills. HB 883 Vehicle exhaust systems; operation in certain locations: Expands the locations for which operation of a motor vehicle, moped, or motorized skateboard or foot-scooter that does not comply with requirements for mufflers and a vehicle that does not comply with the requirements for exhaust systems is prohibited to include any driveway or premises of a church, school, recreational facility, or business; any governmental property open to the public; any industrial establishment providing parking space for customers, patrons, or employees; and any highway under construction or not yet open to the public. This bill has been reported out of subcommittee. If it becomes law it will have no effect on antiques.

HB 884 Vehicle exhaust systems; inspection and administrative fee and SB 714 Vehicle exhaust systems; inspection and administrative fee are companion bills: Prohibits passenger vehicle exhaust systems from emitting noise in excess of 95 decibels in Planning District 8 on any highway; driveway or premises of a church, school, recreational facility, or business; any governmental property open to the public; any industrial establishment providing parking space for customers, patrons, or employees; and any highway under construction or not yet open to the public.
The bill allows, in Planning District 8, a law-enforcement officer to stop a passenger vehicle he determines is emitting exhaust system noise in excess of such limit and issue a notice of an administrative fee of $250 to be assessed at the time of the vehicle's next registration renewal and establishes a process for inspecting such vehicle.
The bill has a contingent effective date of January 1, 2025, provided that the Department of Environmental Quality has received the necessary funding to supply the necessary equipment for such vehicle exhaust system inspections to inspection stations. The bill sunsets on July 1, 2027.

The senate bill is in committee and the house bill was reported out with a substitute that you can see at Substitute for HB884 Transportation, Highway Safety and Policy Recommended on 1/24/2024. It is IMPORTANT to note that the bills only apply to Planning District 8 which is the area around DC. Also important is that the bill is contingent on funding - no funds means no law - and it has a sunset so even if there is funding for decibel meters the law only lasts 30 months. I'm not sure what is going on with this. Perhaps a test run on exhaust noise? I find it strange that the same members of the GA who want all electric vehicles by 2035 are so worried about exhaust noise which EVs do not emit.

The car tax repeal bill HB1308 : Tangible personal property tax relief; rate of taxation. The car tax bill is in committee. The several photo speed bills are in an Ad Hoc committee in the House and the Transportation Committee in the Senate - see article below for links to those bills.

This month the photos are from the Polar Bear Run 23 - this is inside the barn of Tom Herman
- a barn full of fire trucks and fire equipment

An Incoming Virginia Delegate Wants To Expand Use Of Speed Cameras

From Virginia Mercury
When they reconvene this month, Virginia lawmakers will consider a proposal to allow local governments to install speed cameras wherever they deem them necessary, with penalties of up to $100 for violations.

Bill patron Del.-elect Mike Jones, D-Richmond, said the legislation is intended to increase speed enforcement and reduce the number of traffic fatalities.

“It gives localities the decision of whether they want to do it or not,” said Jones. “So it’s not a ‘shall’ — every locality will have it — but for the ones that are concerned with this, it would help them out.”

State law currently allows local governments to install speed cameras in work and school zones as a way to drivers to go slower around children and construction workers. Jones’ bill would go further, allowing their placement in “any location deemed necessary” by local governments.

However, the use of more cameras to enforce speed laws has previously sparked controversy over privacy and public perceptions that the technology is just another way for a locality to raise revenue.

In November, amid a Frederick County debate, outgoing Supervisor Shawn Graber told the Mercury that “there should never be a time when a locality tries to simply put something in effect to make money from someone else’s misdoing.”

Jones said he understands the concerns, but argued people are asking for safer streets and safer neighborhoods.

“There’s not enough police for them and/or they don’t respond to neighborhoods simply because of numbers,” said Jones. “I understand the concern for the overpolicing, I get that. I get that as an African American male, I get that as pastor of an African American church, a Black legislator that represented predominantly Black and brown people. I hear that, but the reality is this: People aren’t dying in a lot of these different neighborhoods; where they’re literally dying is in mine.”

Virginia Department of Motor Vehicles data found that last year, 20% of the 122,434 crashes in the state were speed related, a 1% increase over the previous year. Virginia Department of Transportation crash data also shows that between 2018 and 2022, the annual number of traffic fatalities increased from 819 to 1,005.

The DMV said that on average, 2.8 lives are lost and 163 people injured every day because of traffic crashes.

Rob Billington, a spokesman for the Virginia Municipal League, which represents city and town governments in the commonwealth, said the league supports letting local governments expand the use of speed cameras on all roads at all times. He said traditionally VML has supported local flexibility, and it sees Jones’ bill as providing that.

“VML has supported, and continues to support, expanding the availability of photo-camera traffic enforcement for all localities in the context of a defined transportation safety program that includes engineering, enforcement, education, and emergency response elements while respecting civil rights,” the group has said in a transportation policy statement.

The Virginia Association of Counties said it’s still reviewing the bill.

“We are aware of the bill and will closely monitor its progress during the General Assembly session,” said VACO Executive Director Dean Lynch in a statement. “We always welcome additional tools for local governments to better serve their communities and make them safer for other motorists, pedestrians, etc.”

Sen. Jennifer Boysko, D-Fairfax, who will chair the Senate Transportation Committee next session, said lawmakers have considered similar legislation in the past and have raised concerns about the accuracy of the cameras.

“One thing that we don’t want to do is inadvertently penalize somebody for faulty equipment,” Boysko said. “So for me, and I think for many of my colleagues, we want to make certain that before we approve expanding such an item that we want to make sure that it is accurate.”

However, she added, “nobody can deny that the traffic exacerbation over the past couple of years has really caused some real problems with pedestrian injuries and death, and just overall the lack of concern for speed limits.”

Photo Speed Bills - click the link to view
HB 20 Photo speed monitoring devices; location

HB 496 Waste tire disposal by tire producers and haulers; fee; requirements

HB 521 Photo speed monitoring devices; locality-designated highway segments; civil penalty

HB 533 Photo speed monitoring devices; location

HB 905 Photo speed monitoring devices; location

HB 1032 Photo speed monitoring device; civil penalty; default process

SB 336 Photo speed monitoring devices; high-risk intersection segments

Speed Camera Tickets

From Driving Laws
How speed cameras work, and where cities are allowed to use them to issue speeding tickets.

Motorists often wonder whether the cameras at intersections can be used to catch traffic violations. In many states, these cameras are used to ticket drivers, though there are normally certain restrictions to their use. But there are also states where the use of these automated cameras to catch traffic violators is prohibited altogether. Here are some of the basics about when and how cameras can be used to issue speeding violation tickets.

How Speed Cameras Work
Speed cameras aren't terribly complex. Essentially, these devices just combine radar technologies that measure speed with a camera. These photo radars scan the speed of each passing vehicle and will capture an image if a vehicle exceeds a certain speed. Some radar cameras also take video. Speed cameras are most often seen in high-risk areas such as school and work zones.

How Speed Camera Tickets are Issued
When a citation has been recorded and verified (an officer or some other person typically reviews the photos or video footage), a citation will be mailed to the vehicle's registered owner. Because it's not feasible to get a positive identification on the driver, the registered owner is normally presumed—unless proven otherwise—to have been the driver.

The citation should include instructions as to your rights and options for dealing with the ticket. Generally, you can pay the fine or contest the citation in court or in writing. Many states permit the owner to sign a declaration indicating that he or she was not the driver at the time of the alleged violation. Unless the police have photo evidence of the actual driver and it's the owner, the ticket will usually be dismissed based on the declaration.

Fines for camera tickets will generally be the same as or less than those for an officer-issued ticket. However, in some states, camera-issued tickets won't lead to traffic violation demerit points whereas an officer-issued ticket for the same violation does result in points.

Legality of Speed Cameras
Since the traffic enforcement cameras (red light and speed cameras) first started being used, attorneys have contested the constitutionality of their use. So, there have been lots of court decisions and many statutes relating to how, when, and where automated cameras can be used to catch traffic violators.

Constitutionality of Camera Tickets
The courts in some jurisdictions, like Missouri, have found automated citations to be unconstitutional. However, most courts that have addressed challenges to red light and speed cameras have found they did not violate the constitutional rights of drivers.

State Law Restrictions on Traffic Violation Cameras
Some states have laws that prohibit municipalities from using traffic violation cameras. But in states that do allow these cameras, there often certain restrictions related to their use. For example, state laws might restrict camera use to only school or work zones or require that signs be posted to inform drivers of the cameras. Additionally, some states require that traffic violation cameras be operated and maintained by law enforcement.

Jewels Found On Ebay

Here are a couple of hot finds from Ebay Motors.

eBay item number: 126271070438
eBay description: 1955 Chevy Belair no title just parts car. 200 series 55 Belair Post. One of the first one made has double zeros in Vin #.

No title, no interior, no floors and only $6500! Got to love that hood scoop.

Next up is another "project".

eBay item number: 395111879439
eBay description: 1974 Porsche 911 coupe crab-apple yellow/black
We have a clear PA title. Title shows 7,581 miles, but exceeds mechanical limits
2.7 engine is apart and will need to be rebuilt
5 speed 915 type Trans.
15” Cookie Cutter Wheels.
This car has all the usual rust. The center shift tunnel is rusted through and sagging. Floors will need to be replaced. Rust through in front of gas tank in floor.
We bought this car in pieces and assembled it so we could see what was missing. See photos

I checked the prices on a 1974 911 and they are pretty expensive. I like the "This car has all the usual rust" - the shift tunnel is gone, floors are gone, engine is apart - best to pass on this one.

eBay item number: 335195799770
eBay description: 1965 Ford Mustang convertible
UPDATE: Title VIN number seems to be different then on the car
RELISTED Again Last buyer ghosted again
If you bid Buy you have to pay deposit whith-in 24 hours, No exceptions
And pay balance and pickup within one week
If you pay the full balance within one week i will give you an extra week to pick it up
If you can't do this DO NOT BID!!!!
Had to relist due to Ghost Buyers
Will no accept any More Deadbeat 0 feedback bidders
If you have 0 feedback you need to have one hell of a good story
See Video Links Below
See all 20 pix
AS pictured
289 Motor is included and is out on the ground
No Transmission, Rest is all there.
Has rust, and see videos for look at the underside and interior
I have a clear title , vin doesn't match?
Oh, and no hood
OK, 3 tires pumped up and holding , 4th one is off the bead so i may try to take it to service station and pump it up.

Here we have a Rust-stang. Looks like someone stripped it for parts and left it for dead. Apparently the price for a dead Stand is $2700. Bet the scrap metal places won't pay that much. Not a surprise the bidders ghosted on this one.

Governor Youngkin Joins the “No Car Tax” Movement

By Derrick A. Max - Derrick Max is President of the Thomas Jefferson Institute for Public Policy
During Governor Glenn Youngkin’s budget submission to the General Assembly, he called for the elimination of the single most hated tax in the Commonwealth — the car tax.

He is right, the car tax is very unpopular. Back in 1997, Jim Gilmore made the elimination of the car tax the center of his long-shot campaign for Governor and it propelled him to an easy victory. A recent survey by the Coalition for Motorist Rights found that 80.5 percent of Virginians are in favor of eliminating the car tax, with 61 percent strongly supporting its elimination.

It is not surprising that there were 32 candidates for state office (some from both parties) in favor of eliminating the car tax. One wonders what the election outcomes might have been had Governor Youngkin made eliminating this tax a part of his election strategy to keep the House and flip the Senate. Clearly, it was a missed opportunity.

elimination and is the reason the car tax remains today. While Governor Gilmore passed a phase-out of the car tax in 1998, due to an economic downturn, the General Assembly limited the car tax cut to 30 percent (which still makes it the highest in the country).

While Virginia has an overall tax burden that ranks 23rd in collections per capita according to the Tax Foundation, it has the highest “car tax” rate in the country, according to a recent study by WalletHub. Car tax rates vary across Virginia from $3.40 per $100 in Henrico County to $5.33 per $100 in Alexandria. The rates are highest in Northern Virginia and lowest in Southwest Virginia.

The economic case for repeal of the car tax is pretty simple, as it is easily one of the most regressive taxes levied by states. Since the assessed value of cars tends to decline at a slower rate than income, particularly for older vehicles, the burden of the car tax falls more heavily on lower-income individuals who rely on older vehicles for transportation. In Virginia, with a significant rural population and a large number of households grappling with economic hardship, this tax hits hard.

The car tax discourages vehicle ownership, potentially hindering economic mobility and job opportunities for those reliant on personal transportation -- especially in rural areas where public transportation is sparse. Repeal of the car tax should also appeal to the Green Agenda community, as high car taxes are a disincentive to replacing old gas-guzzling, carbon-producing vehicles with newer more energy-efficient cars.

The debate surrounding Virginia's car tax reflects a broader national conversation about the efficacy and fairness of different tax systems. Governor Youngkin jumped into the middle of that debate today when he pushed for dramatic reductions in income taxes as a part of his budget, offset in part by increases in various sales and use taxes. Again, the economic case for this shift is sound as outlined in the Tax Foundation’s study, “Not All Taxes are Created Equal” which noted that “sales taxes are less distortive than capital and income taxes because they do not affect decisions to work or invest, and when appropriately structured, they do not lead to tax pyramiding or changes in consumption.”

Because the car tax repeal was not actually a part of Governor Youngkin’s budget proposal today (it was just a mention), movement on this proposal will require a supportive General Assembly to move the legislation outside of his budget. It will also require that the tax proposals Governor Youngkin did include in his budget (lowering income taxes across the board while modernizing the tax code to shift to greater reliance on sales and use taxes) get passed. Of course, it would also help if we had revenue in excess of expenses, as we have had the last two years.

The Thomas Jefferson Institute has a long history on how to eliminate the car tax and wrote a paper twenty years ago, "Car Tax Cuts: How Should Localities be Reimbursed?" that made an attempt to tackle the hardest challenge of its elimination -- namely, how to make localities whole. More broadly, the Thomas Jefferson Institute has repeatedly called for a wholesale restructuring of the Commonwealth’s tax code, not dissimilar to what was proposed by Governor Youngkin today. We believe Governor Youngkin is on solid footing and look forward to supporting this effort as more details become available.

The greater danger, of course, is that the new Democrat majorities in the General Assembly will limit any income tax reductions the Governor requested, support the increases in sales and use taxes he proposed, and outspend the Governor in all of his new spending requests, and add their own spending on top of his proposals. Governor Youngkin will need to sharpen his veto pen to avoid this scenario. There can be no allowance for increased sales and use taxes if there isn’t an offsetting reduction in income taxes as he proposed!

HB 1308 Tangible personal property; removes $950 million cap on amount of tax relief reimbursed to locality - is the bill that would end the car tax: Removes the $950 million cap, beginning in tax year 2025 and all tax years thereafter, on the amount of tangible personal property tax relief reimbursed to localities by the Commonwealth. The bill requires, for tax year 2025 and all tax years thereafter, each county, city, or town to reduce its local tax rate on qualifying vehicles to no greater than $0.000001 per $100 of assessed value of the qualifying vehicle.

Here is the link to the bill HB1308.

This is inside the home/museum of Tom Herman

Collector Car Bill

Senator J.D. "Danny" Diggs is the sponsor of SB 198: License plates; creates plates for collector motor vehicles, penalty.

Here is the bill summary: License plates; collector motor vehicles; penalty. Creates license plates for collector motor vehicles, defined in the bill, which the Commissioner of the Department of Motor Vehicles shall issue to any applicant who owns or has regular use of another passenger car, autocycle, or motorcycle and who owns at least a total of three collector motor vehicles. The bill designates the fee for such plates and registration as $50, specifies that the collector motor vehicles shall not be used for general transportation purposes and may only be used (i) for participation in shows, parades, charitable functions, and historical exhibitions for display, maintenance, and preservation; (ii) on the highways of the Commonwealth for the purpose of testing their operation or selling the vehicle, obtaining repairs or maintenance, transportation to and from events, and for occasional pleasure driving not exceeding 250 miles from the residence of the owner; and (iii) to carry or transport passengers and personal effects. The bill also prohibits such vehicles from being registered as antique vehicles or military surplus motor vehicles. Finally, the bill makes it a Class 4 misdemeanor to violate any provision relating to the registration of collector motor vehicles.

Here are the changes that would be made to the current law. It would add: "Collector" means a person who owns three or more vehicles and who collects, purchases, acquires, trades, or disposes of such vehicles, or parts thereof, for his own use in order to preserve, restore, and maintain such vehicles for hobby or historical purposes.

"Collector motor vehicle" means a motor vehicle owned by a collector that is used primarily in shows, parades, charitable functions, and historical exhibitions for display, maintenance, and preservation and is not used primarily for transportation.

And add: § 46.2-730.2. License plates for collector motor vehicles; fee.

A. On receipt of an application and evidence that the applicant owns or has regular use of another passenger car, autocycle, or motorcycle, and owns at least a total of three collector motor vehicles, the Commissioner shall issue appropriately designed license plates to owners of collector motor vehicles. These license plates shall be valid so long as title to the vehicle is vested in the applicant. The fee for the registration card and license plates of any of these vehicles shall be a one-time fee of $50.

B. Notwithstanding the provisions of §§ 46.2-711 and 46.2-715, collector motor vehicles may display single license plates.

C. Collector motor vehicles registered with license plates issued or authorized for use under this section shall not be used for general transportation purposes, including daily travel to and from the owner's place of employment, but shall only be used:

1. For participation in shows, parades, charitable functions, and historical exhibitions for display, maintenance, and preservation;

2. On the highways of the Commonwealth for the purpose of testing their operation or selling the vehicle, obtaining repairs or maintenance, transportation to and from events as described in subdivision 1, and for occasional pleasure driving not exceeding 250 miles from the residence of the owner; and

3. To carry or transport passengers and personal effects.

The registration card issued to a collector motor vehicle registered pursuant to subsections A and B shall indicate such vehicle is for limited use.

D. Owners of collector motor vehicles applying for registration pursuant to this section shall submit to the Department, in the manner prescribed by the Department, certifications that such vehicles are capable of being safely operated on the highways of the Commonwealth.

Pursuant to § 46.2-1000, the Department shall suspend the registration of any vehicle registered with license plates issued under this section that the Department or the Department of State Police determines is not properly equipped or otherwise unsafe to operate. Any law-enforcement officer shall take possession of the license plates, registration card, and decals, if any, of any vehicle or trailer registered with license plates issued under this section when he observes any defect in such vehicle as set forth in § 46.2-1000.

E. Any owner of a collector motor vehicle registered with license plates pursuant to this section who is convicted of a violation of this section is guilty of a Class 4 misdemeanor. Upon receiving a record of conviction of a violation of this section, the Department shall revoke and not reinstate the owner's privilege to register the vehicle operated in violation of this section with license plates issued or authorized for use pursuant to this section for a period of five years from the date of conviction.

F. No collector motor vehicle shall be registered as an antique vehicle pursuant to § 46.2-730 or as a military surplus motor vehicle pursuant to § 46.2-730.1.

I called and spoke with one of the legislative aides to Senator Diggs. This bill would allow antique rules for vehicles not old enough to be antiques but are collectable vehicles. It still allows the vehicles to be taxed unlike antiques. The bill would allow people to become collectors of vehicles by creating a new category of collectors and collector vehicles. I asked if someone asked the senator to put in the bill or if the senator is a vehicle collector - both answers are no.

Links: SB 198 lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?241+sum+SB198
Bill text: lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?241+ful+SB198

Here is the attached garage with an antique fire truck

DuCard Vineyards - A great destination for a car club cruise

From DuCard Vineyards
Greetings Fred,

I am Elizabeth Woolhouse, Director of Marketing and Administration for DuCard Vineyards in Etlan, VA. I was looking at your website and thought perhaps you might be interested in adding the our winery as one of the stops or as a destination for one of the cruises in 2024 or beyond.

DuCard Vineyards is a beautiful, Virginia Green winery located in Madison County Virginia along the Blue Ridge and Shenandoah National Park. DuCard Vineyards

We would like to be considered as a stop or a final destination on one of your future tours you may be planning for 2024 and beyond.

DuCard Vineyards is a boutique winery that can offer the following options for your group:
•   Ample area for a club to park together for group photo opportunities with the Mountains as a backdrop
•   Tour of the vineyard including history of the winery
•   Glasses or bottles of wine
•   Group wine flights
•   Space for picnics
•   Space for group dinner, local catering info available.
I would love to discuss any tour opportunities you may be planning that could include the winery.

Looking forward to hearing from you soon!


Elizabeth Woolhouse
Director of Marketing and Administration
Etlan (Madison County), Virginia

A project at Love's Kustoms that has a Hemi engine

The Internet Dunks On EVs After Cold Front Turns Charging Stations Into ‘Car Graveyards’

From American Entertainment News.
Chicago electric vehicle owners got the shock of their lives when frigid temperatures caused their cars to go dead, and the internet is here for it.

A wave of bitter cold weather made charging EVs impossible over the last few days, with drivers trying and failing to get juice into their batteries for hours on end.

The problem has overwhelmingly afflicted Tesla drivers in Chicagoland, who after attempting to power up their vehicles at the company’s area supercharging stations, were forced to abandon their vehicles to seek shelter from temperatures as low as -5 °F.

The charging stations effectively became Tesla “graveyards” as drivers slowly realized that their EVs weren’t getting any power after hours of charging.

On Monday, Tesla owner Tyler Beard told Fox 32 that said that he had been trying to charge his car since Sunday afternoon to no avail.

“Nothing. No juice. Still on zero percent,” he told the outlet. “And this is like three hours being out here after being out here three hours yesterday.”

Beard wasn’t the only one, Tesla drivers waited in line for hours at charging stations, with many eventually giving up and leaving their cars behind due to the vehicle’s Lithium ion battery, which is notoriously finicky in extremely cold weather.

“I’ve been here for over five hours at this point and I still have not gotten to charge my car,” Brandon Welbourne told CBS News Chicago. “A charge that should take 45 minutes is taking two hours.”

According to Axios, not only does charging take longer, but EV’s driving range in freezing temperatures drops about 70%.

Many of the Tesla’s lost what little power they had while waiting in line to get a charge. “We got a bunch of dead robots out here,” one person remarked.

For Model S drivers, totally draining the battery could be life threatening, as the door’s are difficult to open when the voltage is low in normal temperatures.

“Always connect to an external, low voltage power supply before opening a door when the vehicle has no power,” Tesla helpfully recommends. “To avoid breaking a window.”

To combat this issue, Tesla recommends keeping their cars plugged in to maintain a charge of 20% or more at all times.

They also recommend driving the car 30-45 minutes before heading to a charging station to “ensure optimal Battery temperature and charging conditions.”

Social media had a field day over the news that the EV’s the government are pushing over gas-guzzlers are rendered useless in standard North American cold weather.

“Get an electric vehicle they said,” someone captioned Fox 32’s news report about the issue. “Everything will be fine they said.”

“Reality: Chicago-area Tesla charging stations lined with dead cars in freezing cold,” he pointed out. “Gas-powered vehicles don’t have this problem.”

“But at least we stopped global warming,” another quipped.

“Sounds like they need a little global warming to get their cars to work,” somebody else added.

“Democrats do not possess foresight, only disastrous hindsight,” one X user responded.

“Hey Democrats….Winter is coming,” Chicago Guy joked.

Another replier wondered why no locals were profiteering off the situation.

“Why is no one out there with a generator,” someone with an entrepreneurial spirit questioned. “You could be making a killing.”

While another X user pointed out that the owners of the dead Tesla’s were in for some future sticker shock.

“FYI frozen batteries have to be replaced being frozen,” they wrote. “Good luck they cost a small fortune about $20,000.”

“These cars cost a good amount. A 30k gas car would not have to deal with this. Or even a 10k used car. The EV stuff is overhyped,” one person criticized.

“We have to charge everything,” the continued. “Once it’s too cold or a power outage, good luck.”

“All EV owners basically need a gas car as a backup or access to one.”

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The Briefs

A car accident on Christmas Day caused a fire that required four tankers, over 10 rescue organizations and 36,000 of gallons of water to put out. The catch? Not a single drop of gasoline was involved. According to WIAT-TV, authorities in Pine Level, Alabama had such trouble putting out a fire caused by a Tesla accident on Interstate 65. The department said in a statement that they were dispatched to the single-vehicle accident at 11:14 p.m. on Dec. 25. “911 advised our units that an electric vehicle was involved. Assistance was immediately requested from Marbury, Booth, Independence, White City, Old Kingston, and Verbena Fire Departments, along with Haynes Ambulance, ALEA, Autauga Co EMA, ALDOT, and Autauga Co Sheriff’s Office,” the statement read. “When the first engine arrived, they found a Tesla Model Y automobile fully involved in fire,” the statement continued. “It was determined the driver of the vehicle was uninjured and had escaped the vehicle before the fire department arrived.” Thanks to a process known as “thermal runaway,” which causes lithium ion batteries to reach incredible temperatures, 36,000 gallons were needed to put the fire out. A normal fire in an internal-combustion car only takes 500 gallons. “This was a first for Autauga County. Electric vehicle fires are unusual and present unique challenges and dangers to firefighters,” the statement from Pine Level Fire Department read. “These vehicles can reignite hours or days after they are first extinguished. They burn at temperatures exceeding 2500 degrees C. The smoke from these burning electric cars produces Hydrogen Flouride and Hydrogen Chloride gases – both of which are toxic to breath and requires firefighters to wear breathing apparatus.”

Pizza Hut operators will lay off more than 1,200 delivery drivers at hundreds of franchises across California in February, the company confirmed. San Ramon-based PacPizza and Southern California Pizza Co., which operate Pizza Hut restaurants throughout the state, announced in WARN Act notices filed with California’s Employment Development Department that they will be doing away with in-house delivery services at hundreds of locations, Business Insider first reported. More than 1,200 in-house delivery driver positions will reportedly be eliminated as a result, including 841 positions in Southern California alone. “Pizza Hut is aware of the recent changes to delivery services at certain franchise restaurants in California,” a company spokesperson told SFGATE. “Our franchisees independently own and operate their restaurants in accordance with local market dynamics and comply with all federal, state, and local regulations, while continuing to provide quality service and food to our customers via carryout and delivery.” The decision comes in anticipation of California Assembly Bill 1228, which will require fast food restaurants to pay workers a minimum wage of at least $20 per hour starting in April. The bill will impact over 500,000 fast food workers across the state, according to Gov. Gavin Newsom’s office.

General Motors (GM) has initiated legal proceedings against the city of San Francisco in an effort to retrieve $108 million in taxes and $13 million in interest that the corporation claims were unjustly levied from 2016 onwards. The lawsuit, which was filed on Friday in the California Superior Court and the County of San Francisco, alleges that the municipality imposed unjustifiedly high taxes on the company due to its consideration of its Cruise self-driving car division, which the company associates with a $3 billion global revenue despite the fact that it is operated independently from GM. In addition to interest, penalties, and interest totaling nearly $13 million, the Detroit-based automaker is demanding payment of these amounts for tax issues that occurred between 2016 and 2022. According to the lawsuit, the organization sold an estimated $677,000 worth of products in San Francisco in 2022, and its presence in the city is limited to the absence of manufacturing facilities, employees, physical locations, and dealerships. The reason the company waited until now to contest the city’s tax assessment, despite having previously paid, was not disclosed. As a result of a sequence of collisions, the self-driving fleet was removed from public roads in November, prompting Cruise to recall its CEO and update its software. After an accident on October 2 in which a Cruise vehicle drew a pedestrian to the side of the road after the individual was struck by another vehicle and propelled into the path of the autonomous vehicle, safety concerns were raised. Cruise’s autonomous permits were revoked by California on the grounds that they are unsafe for public operation.

When a group of German hackers breached a Tesla, they weren’t out to remotely seize control of the car. They weren’t trying to access the owner’s WiFi passwords, nor did they want a way to steal credit-card numbers from a local electric-vehicle charging network. Their target was its heated seats. The Tesla in question was equipped with heated rear seats, but the feature is hidden behind a paywall and activated only after the driver forks over $300. To get around that, three Ph.D. students from Technische Universität Berlin, along with an independent researcher (and the Tesla’s owner), say they physically tampered with the voltage supply that powers the car’s infotainment system. This allowed them to essentially glitch the computer, in the process gaining access to the rear heated seats free of charge. By “jailbreaking” the car, they were also able to access many of its internal systems and private user data. “We are not the evil outsider, but we’re actually the insider, we own the car,” one of the researchers told TechCrunch last month ahead of a cybersecurity conference where they presented their findings. “And we don’t want to pay these $300 for the rear-heated seats.”

GasBuddy, a PDI company, today released its annual Fuel Price Outlook with some good news for drivers: expect lower gasoline and diesel prices in 2024. The outlook highlights key trends in gasoline and diesel prices, forecasting that, after two years of above average gas prices, 2024 will bring relief at the pump for consumers as several factors contribute to less of a pinch at the pump. GasBuddy expects the yearly national average will drop from $3.51 per gallon this year to $3.38 in 2024. Highlights from GasBuddy's 2024 Fuel Outlook: Gas prices still could fall below a national average of $3 per gallon this winter before potentially rising, getting close to $4 per gallon as summer approaches. Drivers in some West Coast cities could again briefly see prices above $6 per gallon, although most major U.S. cities will see prices peak near $4 per gallon in 2024. Americans are expected to spend a combined $446.9 billion on gasoline in 2024. Average yearly spending per household will fall to an estimated $2,407, down 2% from 2023, and over 12% from 2022. Electric vehicles (EVs) and the 2024 presidential election have the potential to impact fuel prices in the year ahead, with a potential slowdown in the EV transition at stake. Memorial Day will be the priciest 2024 holiday at the pump, with the national average price of gasoline expected to be $3.56-$4.04 per gallon on the holiday.

Two years ago, Paul Kerouac stopped at a Dunkin' Donuts in Winter Park, Florida, where he used the restroom, the New York Post reported. While he was indisposed, the toilet he was occupying exploded, leaving him "covered with debris, including human feces and urine," according to a lawsuit filed on Jan. 3 in Florida's 9th Judicial District. Kerouac claims the Dunkin' workers knew there was a "problem with the toilet" and says he now "requires mental health care and counseling as a direct result of the trauma he experienced in the restroom."

Authorities were called to the Leeds, Alabama, Bass Pro Shops on Jan. 4 after 42-year-old George Owens of Sterrett drove a car into a pole in the parking lot, then exited the car, stripped off all his clothes and ran inside, where he did a cannonball into the aquarium. AL.com reported that Owens yelled at two police officers, then climbed over the edge of the aquarium, where he fell to the concrete floor and knocked himself out. He was charged with public lewdness among other offenses.

Three armed suspects were busy robbing a check-cashing business in Commerce City, Colorado, on Dec. 16 when another thief mucked up their getaway plans, 9News-TV reported. The robbers' vehicle, which was probably stolen, was outside when a woman jumped in and took off with it, leaving the teenage suspects to try to escape on foot. Police were able to capture two of them, along with loaded firearms, and arrest them. The car thief is still at large.

In Wheat Ridge, Colorado, police caught up with a burglar on Dec. 28 who had hired an Uber for use as a getaway car, 14News-TV reported. Jose Guadalupe Perez-Gallardo was taken into custody as he approached his hired ride, carrying a backpack with $8,600 worth of stolen Milwaukee-brand tools inside. "Ordering an Uber as your getaway driver makes it that much easier for us to find you," the Wheat Ridge Police Department posted online.

Think you're a hot dog driver? Here's a potential job opening for you: driving the Wienermobile. Oscar Mayer wants to hire a dozen "Hotdoggers," for year-long full-time jobs driving its iconic 27-foot-long hot dog on wheels. If you relish the chance, you can apply through Jan. 31 on the Oscar Meyer website to be part of what will be the 37th class of Hotdoggers who drive the Wienermobile, which first hit the road in 1936. Drivers travel and maintain one of the six Wienermobiles, traveling an average of 20,000 miles, visiting more than 20 states and handing out 250,000 Wiener Whistles during the year, the company says. They also create content for the brand’s social media channels.

European Commission investigators are to inspect Chinese automakers in the coming weeks as part of a probe into whether to impose punitive tariffs to protect European electric vehicle (EV) makers, three people involved in the process said. The inspectors will visit BYD (002594.SZ), Geely (0175.HK) and SAIC (600104.SS), two sources said, with one of them saying the investigators will not visit non-Chinese brands produced in China, such as Tesla (TSLA.O), Renault (RENA.PA) and BMW (BMWG.DE). The probe, launched in October and scheduled to last 13 months, seeks to determine whether cheaper, Chinese-made EVs benefit unfairly from state subsidies. Called protectionist by China, the investigation has escalated tensions between Beijing and the EU.

Every year American cars hit more than 1 million large animals, such as deer, elk, and moose, and as many as 340 million birds; across the continent, roadkill may claim the lives of billions of pollinating insects. The ranks of the victims include many endangered species: One 2008 congressional report found that traffic existentially threatens at least 21 critters in the U.S.

Wrestling legend Hulk Hogan saved a teenage girl from a gnarly car accident in Florida. According to TMZ, Hogan was an eyewitness to a car collision that happened on a highway in Clearwater, Florida, on Sunday night. Hogan, whose real name is Terry Gene Bollea, was driving on the same expressway with his wife, Sky Daily, and their Marine buddy Jake, when they watched a car flip. The 70-year-old former WWE star pulled over and sprang into action to assist the 17-year-old driver trapped inside the overturned red SUV. Hogan and his friend were able to free the girl from the vehicle by popping the inflated airbag with a pen and unfastening her seatbelt. Paramedics arrived on the scene shortly after the rescue. Hogan and his wife stood alongside, anxiously watching as medical professionals attended to the situation.

A Florida man has been honored for his heroics after rescuing a woman from a car that was sinking into an alligator-infested pond late last year. Dwayne Hingos “heroically” jumped into action on Oct. 18, 2023, after hearing a car crash into the pond, according to government officials from the City of Auburndale, where the accident occurred. Hingos was standing outside his company’s warehouse when Tamara Huber-Lucas had a medical episode that resulted in her car veering into a nearby retention pond, according to ABC affiliate WFTS-TV. The single mom from Lakeland was on her way to pick up her 18-month-old child from daycare when the incident occurred. Hingos ran several dozen yards before reaching what WFTS-TV described as an alligator-infested body of water. He then “swam to the vehicle and discovered the distressed driver inside,” city officials said. The heroic man helped get Huber-Lucas to safety by pulling her through the car’s open sunroof moments before the vehicle sank.

Repair Mistakes & Blunders

From Rock Auto
My son bought a used BMW 5 series several years ago. When it was time to replace the front brakes, we each took a wheel to replace the pads. My son and I always do our own brakes.

Everything came apart easily. We each installed our respective pads, reassembled everything and went out for a road test. We immediately heard scraping sounds when the brakes were applied. We continued the road test thinking that the pads were bedding in, but they did not get any better. Figuring something was wrong, we gingerly drove back home.

Upon inspection of the brake pads my son replaced, I saw that they were installed backwards! He thought he would never hear the end of his dad picking on him for installing brake pads incorrectly. We re-installed the pads and went for another road test, but there was still a scraping sound! Back to the garage... We checked the brakes we just fixed and they were fine. We took the other wheel off (the one that I was working on), and believe it or not, those pads were on backwards too!

We each worked independently and both made the same silly mistake!

Tom in Tennessee

1963 Chevy II at Love's

No Joke: Feds Are Banning Humorous Electronic Messages On Highways

Website AP News
It’s no joke. Humorous and quirky messages on electronic signs will soon disappear from highways and freeways across the country.

The U.S. Federal Highway Administration has given states two years to implement all the changes outlined in its new 1,100-page manual released last month, including rules that spells out how signs and other traffic control devices are regulated.

Administration officials said overhead electronic signs with obscure meanings, references to pop culture or those intended to be funny will be banned in 2026 because they can be misunderstood or distracting to drivers.

The agency, which is part of the U.S. Department of Transportation, said signs should be “simple, direct, brief, legible and clear” and only be used for important information such as warning drivers of crashes ahead, adverse weather conditions and traffic delays. Seatbelt reminders and warnings about the dangers of speeding or driving impaired are also allowed.

Among those that will be disappearing are messages such as “Use Yah Blinkah” in Massachusetts; “Visiting in-laws? Slow down, get there late,” from Ohio; “Don’t drive Star Spangled Hammered,” from Pennsylvania; “Hocus pocus, drive with focus” from New Jersey; and “Hands on the wheel, not your meal” from Arizona.

Arizona has more than 300 electronic signs above its highways. For the last seven years, the state Department of Transportation has held a contest to find the funniest and most creative messages.

Anyone could submit ideas, drawing more than 3,700 entries last year. The winners were “Seatbelts always pass a vibe check” and “I’m just a sign asking drivers to use turn signals.”

“The humor part of it, we kind of like,” said state Rep. David Cook, a Republican from Globe, told Phoenix TV station CBS 5. “I think in Arizona the majority of us do, if not all of us.”

He said he didn’t understand the fuss.

“Why are you trying to have the federal government come in and tell us what we can do in our own state? Prime example that the federal government is not focusing on what they need to be.”

This engine is in a 1954 Corvette project at Love's Kustoms

Hertz to Sell 20,000 EVs and Replace with Gas Vehicles

From Hagerty
Hertz has announced a plan to thin its fleet of electric vehicles by 20,000 units and replace them with gasoline-powered vehicles, citing lower than expected demand and higher repair costs. Bloomberg reports they have already began the process of selling their inventory.

Overall EV demand has not met lofty sales expectations, as sales growth was only 1.3% higher from the third to fourth quarter of 2023. In an interview with CNBC, Hertz’s CEO Stephen Scherr said EV rentals are “not at the level of demand that we anticipated.” EVs have also been more expensive to repair than gasoline vehicles in Hertz’s fleet, and Sherr suggested that “efforts to wrestle it down proved to be more challenging.” CNBC also did a credible job explaining the how and why this strategy failed.

The video suggests that routine maintenance costs were lower for EVs, but repairing accident damage is twice that of a gasoline vehicle. Tesla vehicles are sometimes associated with uneven parts and service support, and a quick scan of Hertz Car Sales’ website shows that they are currently selling 672 Teslas, 35 Chevrolet Bolts, 3 Kia EV6s, one Nissan Leaf, one BMW i3 from 2018 (!), and none of their Polestar EVs.

More Teslas will be dumped onto the market in the coming months, which may affect already depressed prices. Currently, Hertz’s cheapest Tesla is this black Model 3 with the standard battery. It is fairly priced at $20,125, roughly 57% less than its original asking price of $46,440 back in 2021. The cheapest 2021 Toyota Prius that Hertz is currently selling is $18,300 (with no photos, possibly in worse shape than the Tesla), which is only a 28% loss in value in a similar timeframe.

Because EV production is lowering to match this slower than expected growth, Hertz’s market correction could be the best time for EV-intenders to get into the game before supply fully adjusts to demand. If that’s what you really want.

This is from the collection of rusty relics of Rodney Watts - note his junkyard dog

Blue Cities Went All-In for Electric Transit, But the Buses Couldn't Handle the Cold

From Western Journal
Virtue-signaling liberalism is fighting another losing battle with reality.

On Wednesday, the Minnesota-focused news outlet MinnPost reported that several of the state’s largest cities have encountered significant obstacles in their quest to achieve planet-friendly public transit.

Frigid temperatures and a myriad of other problems have plagued Duluth and the Twin Cities of Minneapolis and St. Paul during their transition to zero-emission buses.

In subzero conditions — a staple of Minnesota winters — electric buses operate at only a fraction of their supposed 150-mile capacity.

Drew Kerr, spokesman for Twin Cities Metro Transit, explained that charged buses travel far shorter distances than manufacturers advertised.

“Using garage chargers alone, electric buses can remain in service for 70 to 75 miles before needing to return to the garage; with on-route chargers, electric buses were scheduled to be in service for up to 90 miles before returning to the garage,” Kerr said.

Duluth spokesman Dave Clark noted that the city has experienced significant problems with charging stations.

“They would fail. They would not perform. They would experience malfunctions, glitches. They were extremely problematic right out of the gate,” Clark said.

Furthermore, Duluth’s electric bus fleet has provided inadequate comfort by failing to keep riders warm in winter.

Meanwhile, the Twin Cities’ fleet has proven comparatively unreliable. In Minneapolis-St. Paul, electric buses have broken down at twice the rate of traditional diesel-powered buses.

All of this leaves the general impression that electric buses lack efficiency and do not meet riders’ needs.

The most significant aspect of this story, however — or at least the one that makes it relevant to readers outside of Minnesota — involves the perennial unholy alliance between government and business.

In 2021, Metro Transit received a federal grant to purchase a fleet of electric buses from the California-based manufacturer Proterra. Duluth received a similar grant in 2015.

Earlier this year, Proterra filed for bankruptcy despite a public endorsement from President Joe Biden as recently as March 2022.

Now, in addition to malfunctioning or inadequate buses, the Minnesota cities have no immediate vendor.

If this story sounds familiar, it is because affluent Teton County, Wyoming, had a similar experience with Proterra. That cold-weather county’s entire electric bus fleet failed, resulting in continued reliance on its diesel fleet.

Of course, Teton County’s per-household wealth ranks first in the nation. Predictably, Biden won Teton County by nearly 40 points in the 2020 election.

Biden also received Minnesota’s 10 electoral votes, winning both Hennepin and St. Louis counties, home to Minneapolis and Duluth, respectively.

In sum, urban Minnesotans support Democrats, so it stands to reason that they would invest in electric buses.

Furthermore, it makes no difference that the buses often fail to run properly and do not suit riders’ needs. Electric vehicles have nothing to do with the people who ride in them.

After all, affluent liberals — backed by grant-issuing government busybodies — have a planet to save. They might suffer mildly troubled consciences, for instance, over child labor and other mining practices used to procure cobalt for EV batteries in central Africa’s Democratic Republic of Congo, but they have good intentions.

And good intentions shield liberals against all reality, including frigid winter temperatures.

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New EV Deemed Total Loss After Battery Replacement Costs More Than Car Itself

From Western Journal
A man in Canada was shocked when he discovered that it was going to cost him more than what he originally paid for his electric car just to replace the vehicle’s battery pack.

Kyle Hsu bought a brand new Hyundai IONIQ 5 in 2022 at a cost of about $55,000 Canadian (about $41,583 in U.S. dollars).

Less than a year later, he had a small accident that led to some gouges and warping of the battery protector cover on the car’s undercarriage. That small amount of damage led to a shocking and disheartening situation for the car owner that is costing him thousands.

Hsu took the car to the dealership where he purchased the car and asked them to assess the damage. What they told him amazed and infuriated him and should serve as a warning to anyone looking to buy an EV.

The story is going viral after a couple who host the Motormouth video podcast, Zack and Andrea Spencer, posted a video about the EV owner’s wretched experience, according to the Vancouver Sun.

The dealership told Hsu that the damage to the undercarriage meant that his battery pack constituted a hazard and that the battery was under threat of exploding, so it had to be replaced.

But the quote to replace the battery came in at $61,000 (which is $46,000 in U.S. dollars). That is a cost of $6,000 more than what he paid for the car when it was brand-new.

This left the electric vehicle owner with a dilemma on his hands. He had two choices, neither of which were good.

His first choice was to pay for the repair, essentially being forced to spend thousands more than he paid for the car. Not a good option, to say the least.

But his second choice was not really much better.

Option two was to contact his auto insurance provider, the Insurance Corporation of British Columbia, and tell them of the issue so that they could cover his loss. This was a bad option, too. Since the repair cost came in at more than the cash value of the car, the insurer deemed the car a total loss. And since it was a loss as a result of an “accident,” Hsu was told his car insurance premiums could go up by as much as 50 percent.

Both bad options would cost him thousands of dollars, though bad option two would cost a bit less than bad option one.

The horrid situation Hsu found himself in caused car vlogger Andrea Spencer to note, “This is a wake-up call” for all EV buyers.

“The story is, people are buying these cars not knowing what the actual cost of the most important component of the car is to replace,” Zack Spencer added, according to the paper.

This is not at all a surprise for those who take the time to do a bit of research on EVs.

Werner Antweiler, a professor in the Sauder School of Business at the University of B.C., told the Sun that “The battery pack alone is often 30 percent or more of the actual vehicle cost still. So this is a very significant thing.”

Clearly any battery pack replacement will quickly shoot past reasonable repair costs in an EV, especially for an older one.

This also means that no one who is an informed buyer is ever going to want to buy a used EV. Who wants to pay up to $30,000 for a used EV, only to find a year or so down the road that a $60,000 battery pack needs replacing?

In the auto vlogger video, Hsu said that while he still likes the concept of electric cars, he is reluctant to ever buy one again.

“I like the idea of an EV. But even now I am still debating whether I should have another EV,” he said. “I could not justify my reasons anymore if I know the car has no used car value after eight years.”

While everyone is focusing on the outrageous costs of battery replacement, this story is also useful to warn car buyers of just what can happen to their insurance costs. Insurers are increasingly finding that their costs to cover EVs is incredibly high. And they are passing those costs right back onto the car-driving public.

Meanwhile, lunatic greenies and government autocrats are still attempting to force people to buy into EVs. Even with that, though, Ford just cut its manufacturing goals for its Ford F150 Lightning electric trucks in half for 2024. So, maybe the car makers are finally starting to realize that EVs are not a growth industry.

The fact is, EV owners who think they are “saving money” because they aren’t buying gas or paying gasoline taxes are fooling themselves. The hidden costs of EVs far outweigh the supposed savings.

The EV Graveyard Reckoning, Hardly Anyone Wants To Buy A Used One

From ZeroHedge
The market for used EVs is plummeting. What will car rental companies do with the used ones? Problems started in China but have spread to Europe and the US.

China’s Abandoned, Obsolete Electric Cars Are Piling Up in Cities
Bloomberg notes China’s Abandoned, Obsolete Electric Cars Are Piling Up in Cities

A subsidy-fueled boom helped build China into an electric-car giant but left weed-infested lots across the nation brimming with unwanted battery-powered vehicles.

On the outskirts of the Chinese city of Hangzhou, a small dilapidated temple overlooks a graveyard of sorts: a series of fields where hundreds upon hundreds of electric cars have been abandoned among weeds and garbage.

Similar pools of unwanted battery-powered vehicles have sprouted up in at least half a dozen cities across China, though a few have been cleaned up. In Hangzhou, some cars have been left for so long that plants are sprouting from their trunks. Others were discarded in such a hurry that fluffy toys still sit on their dashboards.

The cars were likely deserted after the ride-hailing companies that owned them failed, or because they were about to become obsolete as automakers rolled out EV after EV with better features and longer driving ranges. They’re a striking representation of the excess and waste that can happen when capital floods into a burgeoning industry, and perhaps also an odd monument to the seismic progress in electric transportation over the last few years.

Shenzhen-based photographer Wu Guoyong was one of the first people in China to document the waste that results from frenetic development, taking striking drone shots of the piles of abandoned bicycles in 2018. In 2019, he filmed aerial footage of thousands of electric cars in empty lots around Hangzhou and Nanjing, the capital of China’s eastern Jiangsu province.

“The shared bikes and EV graveyards are a result of unconstrained capitalism,” Wu said. “The waste of resources, the damage to the environment, the vanishing wealth, it’s a natural consequence.”

Hoot of the Day
“EV graveyards are a result of unconstrained capitalism.”


The Chinese government literally forced people to buy the damn things. Biden is attempting the same in the US.

That article is from August. Let’s flash forward to December 21 to see how things are going in Europe.

No One Wants Used EVs, Making New Ones a Tougher Sell Too
What started in China is not limited to China. A second Bloomberg article reveals No One Wants Used EVs, Making New Ones a Tougher Sell Too

Because most new vehicles in Europe are sold via leases, automakers and dealers who finance these transactions are trying to recover losses from plummeting valuations by raising borrowing costs. That’s hitting demand in some European markets that were in the vanguard of the shift away from fossil fuel-powered propulsion. Some of the biggest buyers of new cars, including rental firms, are cutting back on EV adoption because they’re losing money on resales, with Sixt SE dropping Tesla models from its fleet.

The problems are expected to intensify next year, when many of the 1.2 million EVs sold in Europe in 2021 will come off their three-year leasing contracts and enter the secondhand market. How companies tackle this problem will be key for their bottom lines, consumer confidence and ultimately decarbonization — including the European Union’s plan to phase out sales of new fuel-burning cars by 2035.

“There isn’t used-car demand for EVs,” said Matt Harrison, Toyota Motor Corp.’s chief operating officer in Europe. “That’s really hurting the cost-of-ownership story.”

“One has to slash prices significantly just to get customers to look at EVs,” said Dirk Weddigen von Knapp, who heads a group representing VW and Audi dealers.

Biden Struggles to Convince People to Buy EVs, Only 12 Percent Seriously Considering
On April 18, I reported Biden Struggles to Convince People to Buy EVs, Only 12 Percent Seriously Considering

On July 13, I noted Despite Huge Incentives, Supply of EVs on Dealer Lots Soars to 92 Days

On August 20, I reported Clean Energy Exploitations and the Death Spiral of an Auto Industry

On October 16, I commented To Shore Up Share Price, GM Decreases EV Investment in Favor of Buybacks

Last month, GM said it would push back the opening of an electric-truck factory in suburban Detroit by a year. It also scrapped an earlier goal of producing 400,000 EVs over a roughly two-year stretch, through mid-2024.

Slam Dunk Ford Project Now Unclear

Ford’s EV plan is similarly distressed. Ford pauses and then scales back proposed Michigan facility backed by government funding.

Manchin Blasts Biden’s Definition of “Foreign Entity of Concern”
In the you can’t make this up department, Biden’s EV Subsidy Rules Leave Room for Chinese Suppliers

Depending on the definition of “foreign entity of concern” a number of things are floating in the wind including $7,500 tax credits.

Officials worked for months to define a foreign entity of concern but failed. It is not even clear if Ford buyers are eligible for tax credits. “Licensing technology, might be permissible under the rules,” officials said.

Who wants to buy a new EV on the basis a $7,500 credit “might” be allowed?

Q&A on What’s Delaying the Definition
Q: Why the struggle on the definition of “Foreign Entity of Concern”?
A: Ford wants to use Chinese technology but GM wants to block it.

For discussion, please see An Epic Battle: Ford to Use China’s Battery Technology, GM Wants it Blocked

My comment then was “Biden is guaranteed to upset someone. That’s what happens when you interfere in the free markets, taking sides.”

Biden is avoiding a firm definition hoping the problem will go away. But it won’t.

Green Fantasy
In the real world, The Green Fantasy Ends Because Consumers Don’t Want to Pay for It

EVs are not selling because despite massive subsidies to both the manufacturers and consumers, the latter via tax credits, consumers don’t want them.

But here we are, blaming this mess on capitalism. “It’s a natural consequence.“

What a hoot.

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